It can take deer sized game and it will obviously get you through a firefight. Thats why high speed low drag operators, such as my self, have tigers. Im a buy, dont build gun guy. it has niche applications in AR platforms, but then again, it defeats the purpose of using intermediate rounds for all-round use. Hurricanes, wildfires, blizzards, ice storms, pollution, tornadoes, volcanoes, flash floods, nuclear power plants, earthquakes, whatever. Savage Arms Impulse Elite Precision Rifle: BTW: 7.62 x 51/308 is what NATO will be carrying, and the Chineese and Ruskies will have 7.6239 so diversify its not all about 223. That said, I dont care that the .380 sales are up 500percent, I wouldnt have that gun up my butt if I had room for a tugboatIm not betting my life on that gun. We were very old guys, like 18, 19 and 20, and our Vietnamese counterparts, with the exception of their officer, were 15, 16 and 17, and as soon as they turned 18 they were automatically taken into the ARVN army (Army of the Republic of Vietnam). Having a hundred loaded mags on hand means you can just toss away a mag without wasting time on it PLUS it means that others can resupply from you. That Glock employee that writes ads for them called magazine articles? Smith Gunnery Sergeant Hartman for civilians goes on to list an AR-15s owners two greatest enemies . I like Clint and he has good advise, but I still take the things he says with a dose of this isnt Syria and Im not wealthy.. I did that for 10 years, and in the latter two years I was a student at Gunsite with Mr. Jeff Cooperwere talking 1978-79. Kids and their new fangled jamamatics. Read the headline too quickly. So, yes, the .357 Mag will accelerate its bullet down the bore much more quickly than the .45 ACP. ", "I carry a gun cause a cop is too heavy. member and precision rifleman. And again, I got to grow, I was allowed to grow inside a box. It can be upgraded to the Krebs Custom enhanced safety lever or a lever with Rifle Dynamics safety stud. ", "The handgun would not be my choice of weapon if I knew I was going to a fight. With over 40 years of teaching people to stay alive in a harsh world Clint Smith, director of Thunder Ranch, Inc. and International Training Consultants, has seen allot of guns come though his schools. Everyone knows that certain conditions require different loads! Even in most collapsed societies there is more farming and trade and commerce than deadly violence, although there is of course an unacceptable level of violence when order is degraded. If you have any suggestions, ideas, or comments. I live in a largish and fairly homogeneous town; rioting is extremely unlikely. Without getting into the differences between .223 and 5.56 both are perfectly viable out to ranges beyond which most people can shoot without optics. All this depends on the source and how much they actually know for example Janes Defense would be a better source than say Prepper Joe Bobs Sooper Gun Blog. Having lived through big ole hurricanes when I lived in Florida, and now living on the edge of Harveys footprint in Texas, it says to me, a couple days of flooding and bad weather, a couple weeks of scarcity of common goods, and several months or years of rebuilding while normal life goes on. I thought of it being an 80% build. this is, in fact, my shocked face. I first met Clint in 2003 when I attended my first class under his instruction. Save your marriage. (Assuming you dont stay in your domicile, and wait til everything runs out. If nothing else . For the first three years it was teachable but slow. Centuries old, so believe it. What an excellent thing to get in a chest pounding match over, bravo! Ian has always been very specific what the AR-15 system is, and pointed out that true DI systems would be the Swedish AG-42 Ljungman/Hakim or French MAS-49. How to fight with a rifle inside pistol ranges, which is where most rifle fights take place. The .38 Smith & Wesson Special, designed in 1898, rocked the handgun realm with its ballistic performance making it a cartridge for the history books. Everyone chipped in, in the span of four years there were more than 6 million made. Of the thousands and thousands of people desperately in need of supplies after Harvey, Ill bet exactly zero of them were worried about ammo. I'd choose a rifle, a shotgun, an RPG or an atomic bomb instead. It sucks at everything except punching through a sheet steel helmet at 600 meters, which is what it was actually designed to do. (Think $10k and up.) Hey, build it, buy it, just get it! I am no operator by any means but, when he states that with three guns you can always strip one for parts to keep the other two up and running, this is where it would be nice to have the tools and knowledge that you gained by building rifles. (head down, hands in pockets and dragging feet) I guess Ill just have to stick with my XDS and make do. Second, I agree on the idea of three rifles of the same brand and model. If someone comes up to me on the street and asks What does your logo mean? I tell them, for one, all the cool animals were taken, all the birds and dragons and everything. Expensive yes, but far cheaper than any of the custom revolvers out there. Yes! I had not heard of him previously, but Im better educated for now so hearing. .a pill container full of Prozac ? As for the price of Mr. Smiths carry gun, if you have to ask you cant afford it. As long as people will have me, I want to work. And thesurveysays! I guess you must be smarter than a 2 min Google search. Standard length magazine release Nothings wrong with assembling your own AR. I was asked at the end of 79 to become the operations manager at Gunsite, which I did for three years, 80 to 83. Thats what your bolt carrier is. But this gave us the opportunity to step out on our own. The entire industry SHOULD revisit the triangle bolt design from the Leader Dynamics MK2 and engineer a retrofit for the AR15. Last I heard at the start of the whole Syria fiasco the Ruskies are runnin 5.45 so are the Chinese and the North Koreans. As for the viability of 5.56, it aint the best but it WILL get the job done(especially the 75+grain stuff). Because Im more of a form follows function guy, that colors what I buy. Hand-cut 30lpi checkering front and rear Striving for perfection and never releasing your work until it is 100% perfect actually means that you will never finish and never produce a product. lucky genetics. We also had a tactical area of operations, the CAP units were set in a ring around Da Nang with the idea of neutralizing those villages where there was a potential [for the enemy] to launch rockets into the airbase. Big Bill About more parts for ARs than for AKs being available at gun shows, the MAIN reason for that would not be your point. The purpose of this website is to share educate, inform, and build a lasting culture around firearms. Personally I dont see an issue with cartridges like 7.9257 or 300 Blackout for the reasons you mentioned. But they are very different in design philosophy, even tho both work towards the same goal. Also, if you like dogs youre probably a nazi. Here are the specs: Colt Commercial style thumb safety Solid battle tested and reliable. I only own firearms I use on a daily basis (CC handgun and full size tactical handgun are all I need) and feel much like Sgt Maj Plumley in We Were Soldiers Once. When we went to Texas to do Thunder Ranch, we wanted to keep the logo, but we wanted to add something so people would know that [Thunder Ranch] was more, and was bigger [compared to ITC]. In this excerpt from arguably the best shotgun course in the country, TFBTV - Combat Shotgun Basics with Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch These guns representthe ultimate combination of an elegant carry gun and optimal fighting pistol with key functional detail features including: Colt Commercial style thumb safety This is the sort of buzz phrase no one bothers to think through because theyre too biased for their favorite whatever. How long you live depends on how well you do it. Thunder Ranch AK: Century Arms, Clint Smith Partner for Custom AK Just layin around? The design actually kinda sucks, but its too damn late to change it now. Just buy an ak and be done with it. Ummm, for those of us that dont create the kind resources that Clint Smith does with his training facility, Im sure a $10,000 dollar carry gun doesnt make much sense, but if you or I were making probably at least a six figure income, like Clint does, it probably would be different. probably because I spent far more time with it on MGs and G3/CETMEs than I ever did with my issue M16A2 or civilian AR15. So no, none of my AR magsthe three ten rounders I ownare loaded. That way, you know your rifle, its parts, how its built and functions. I would contend they and all Poly auto owners would ALL shoot even better with an SP-01, and probably a good 1911 like a $1500 Kimber. Or did I just miss the news coverage of all the police stations and National Guard armories that are being looted to supply widespread street fighting in southeast Texas right now? Okay? I can do without tornadoes and hurricanes, and you couldnt pay me enough to get me to live where those disasters tend to happen. Rolling Thunder: An Interview with Clint Smith of Thunder From his Oregon Eagles Nest (Im Jewish, dont judge), Whats the issue with Jews and eagle nests? Besides that, in my experience the home builds have been more reliable than a factory built Sig. After the FBI shooting [in Miami] Ive taught more Urban Rifle classes than any of the other types of classes, combinedlike if you take of all of the different pistol classes we teach and put them together, Ive taught more Urban Rifle classes. I was in infantry units to start with and then I was transferred to what are called combined-action platoons, CAPs. There is no possible victory in defense. WebAction Finish Metal Finish: Matte Cerakote, Black Stock Finish: Dipped, Multicam Barrel Length 18 in. Voting is still your best defense. Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). Make sense so far? most of us are better off with standard rifles from a reputable manufacturer, you need to keep some loaded clips for your firearm around cause in an urgency you dont want to have to load. Clint Smith ofThunder Ranch is a gun guru extraordinaire. Sounds like a smart man to me, I have Whats the problem with that? If things are so bad that that there is no commerce, no industry, no civilization at all it means that the earth is a molten slag that got hit by a giant meteoroid. Some families, you know, dont have guns. 100 magazines loaded? I think people should still build their own ARs because that will enhance their familiarity with the platform and theyll be able to run them better regardless if its a custom or one that salvaged from an abandoned armory. This is not the first time Mr. Smith or his proxies have created a gun. If money is no object, thats great. Bravo! Gun Jesus had a very good explanation of it a while back. Captain Thunderpants has nothing but contempt for people who dismiss .223 as a viable cartridge. ETC. First, I agree on the viability of the .223 round. Or what parts are more important than others. Author liked Magpul stock so much he put his old rifle in this new furniture. WebClint Smith Signature. As for his assertion not to build an AR15, its good advice for most people because most people dont know what theyre doing with tools or bother to research parts based on compatibility and reliability. The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either. My guess would be yes, the 45 should kick less, I am only basing this on my 5 Coonan having a little more felt recoil than a 5 45 1911. G.A. Precision - Professional Quality Rifles & Equipment Guess What Gun Clint Smith Carries Everyday? - The Truth But I dont plan on shooting every round from the gun, I just plan to shoot one round at a time until I solve the problem.Additional Reading:Nighthawk Custom Thunder Ranch 1911 Pistol. Three of each gun?! The bonus being, unlike a burro or lama, you can feed them your enemies. On the drive home he said this (semi-automatic pistols) is what were going to do. The felt necessity to have one for spare parts does not speak well for the reliability of the platform. LOGISTICS should be the most important factor in deciding on a fighting rifle/pistol. Now I need to think about where to transfer them tomorrow. Feels good in hand and plenty of ammo available. Ironically enough given the popularity of a certain Austrian handgun Mr. Burtons company is dedicated to perfection. Here are a few of his observations on tactics, firearms, self defense and life as we know it in the civilized world. With thousands of rounds through them. In every commie hellhole in the middleeast, Africa, Russia etc. Then look at how many parts kits you see for the AR. Just because Stoner made a claim of novelty for his patent, does not mean that it actually is outside the definition of the term direct impingement. And that translates to any other AR you may come across from battle field pickup, to a friends rifle. Love em all. Pistol 2. I really dont get a ten grand handgun of any stripe, barring the extraordinarily rare or the extremely enhanced/decorated, in which case youre paying for the engravers painstaking time and skill. Thunder Ranch Special Edition | Aero Precision There is a reason firing a 1 1/5 ounce high brass slug from a 12 gauge feels very much like firing a 300 grain bullet (standard charge) from a .300 H&H Magnum rifle. Those include jams due to case expansion. Fuck me right? Both the AR and the AK work extremely well for their intended role. Hes not saying 55gn 5.56 is ballistically the best, but that its just fine within its ample limitations and is orders-of-magnitude more common than heavier or bigger loads. The jokes on him. I think you underestimate just how much truly cheap surplus x39 is still hanging around in garages and closets. I fell in love with the Performance Center S&W 629 V-Comp years ago but dang they are expensive. Hes not talking about having fun on the range or competing in 3-gun. There are many guys that do lack the equipment, patience or skills to translate that desire to build their own into reality. Finally, someone who times their screws and doesnt resort to such hackneyed nonsense as allen-head grip screws. If i had not built at least one AR i woud have no idea how to fix the ones I have. And not only in our government? I dont huntcity born and raised, I was never taught, and if I shot an animal or a bird, I wouldnt know what to do with it next. Local Storage seems to And management comes through practice, practice, practice. High Angle Rifle - THUNDER RANCH Me too. I carry a revolver. How many parts kits do you see for the AK? Your mileage may vary. In which case, ammo wont make a bit of difference. Q:Any story behind the name?A:Thunder Ranch? Current lead time is 4-6 weeks. If I have a gun, what in the hell do I have to be paranoid for. I cant decide who is more amusingly deluded, guys who make purchasing decisions today based on concerns about hilariously unlikely post-apocalyptic scenarios, or guys who carry a rifle in their car on the off chance they need to stop a terrorist attack. said my cheap glock is just as effective and i can buy 15 more guns with money saved. To be clear, he never called himself that, its something fans made up. It should come as no small comfort for any patriotic American to know that the countrys firearm industry is vibrant and productive, still faithfully serving the needs of armed citizens, law-enforcement officers and military personneljust as it has for more than two centuries. For more on the Thunder Ranch RD700 pistol or other Rifle Dynamic AKs, click here. I have much better things to use ten grand on. not so much. Smith & Wesson sells the PERFORMANCE CENTER Model 325 Thunder Ranch: a matte black .45-caliber Scandium-framed revolver, complete with a gold bead sight and undersnout picatinny rail (not shown for some reason). That bad boy msrps at an eye-watering $1,329.00. As for the price of Mr. Smiths carry gun, if you have to ask you cant afford it. ", "Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way. WebClint Smith began teaching his Urban Rifle doctrine, using the AR carbine for self-defense and law enforcement situations in the early 80s. Everyday Carry Pocket Dump of the Day: J.S. And the AR15 is the standard, end of story. And I shoot them a lot. Building an AR-15 is not hard. Rear sight modified for one-handed operations Maybe its just the way my mind works; form follows function, not the other way around. Polished blue finish I dont care how much money you have in your AK or SCAR or Bren 805 or FAL or G3 or M1A, or whatever, your main rifle SHOULD BE an AR15 in 5.56 NATO(NOT .223 Rem, NOT .223 Wylde because a milspec NATO chamber feeds the widest range of ammo). If Clint says it works, Ill take his word for it. And we wanted to have a place that was ours. Oct 13, 2021 #1 In this episode of TFBTV, James Reeves and Johnny B go to Thunder Ranch to take the Combat Shotgun course from Clint Smith and Jack Daniel. People have been farming, trading, running shops, and manufacturing for thousands of years for profit. Every last one of them. Especially if he has fallen prey to the fallacy that somehow just because of patent claims, somehow Stoners AR/M platform is not, by definition, direct impingement. But.the very vast majority of applications can be resolved quite well with standard Walmart calibers.. For the mere mortals, I can get away with a gun less than a thousand. But as a purely practical matter, my AK will handle any actual probable perp as well as your precious AR will, and with cheaper ammo and far less probability of breaking. And if you can afford Mr. Burtons Thunder Ranch 1911, youre going to have to wait. It is all a matter of degrees. Thats what the CZ SP-01 Shadow (or a Jericho 941 on an EAA Witness or a Sphynx ) offers. 5. To wrap it all up the pistol comes with a standard safety lever. I was deployed twice during my time in. Run what you like but 9mm and 223 are certainly very common rounds. Id really like to fix that rifle, but all I know is how to use a credit card, sooooooo. I need to love my wife, take care of my dogs, defend my country, take care of my health and I have no foreseeable goal to retire. James Yeager recommends keeping a spare fully assembled bolt in the battery compartment of your grip just in case you break an extractor or shear a locking lug because the AR15 bolt will do both. So the shield is defenseaccuracy, power and speed. Thats my hood ornament. Its Legos for adults. It functions, but my next one will be good, not just functional. 6. Smith & Wesson and Thunder Ranch: A Partnership oh, wait you meant um.. nevermind then. Clint Smith Because when the SHTF, those helpful youtube videos may not be available. is the Ultimate Urban Rifle? [How to Shortlengthsolidaluminumtrigger How many people are really going to do that? Good advice? If you know of a gun quote from Mr. Smith not listed here, send it to us. When I was there we started doing double classes, which was really good for growth from an organizational standpoint: How does this range work? Shop for your 22 ammo too! Usually the face mask, after removing the hairs of course, and tongue rolled together into a packet and cooked in broth. ", "The purpose of fighting is to win. Some even shoot well in just a few rounds. Works the same for guns. Patrick Sweeney reviews the Nighthawk Custom Combat Special designed by Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch. Firearms|Rifles By Drew BryantAugust 16th, 2022, theloadoutblog.com Rifle Dynamics and Thunder Ranch are teaming up again to bring another Limited Edition build brought to you by the legendary Clint Smith. WebShop for 22 long rifle pistols and revolvers from top brands like Beretta, Browning, Ruger, Sig Sauer, Smith & Wesson, and more. I had the chance to talk with Thunder Ranch about what ammo Clint uses in his 1911. But calf head is a very delicious part of southern Germanys or eastern France cuisine. Lucky for me, my sister bought me one for Christmas a few years ago. Smith & Wesson sells the PERFORMANCE CENTER Model 325 Thunder Ranch: a matte black .45-caliber Scandium-framed revolver, complete with a gold bead And ammo is still plentiful. The CZ SP-01 Shadow wins most of the IPSC competitions for good reason. Learning different guns is a good idea. So we kept thunder, and it was a ranch, so it became Thunder Ranch. Smith & Wesson sells the PERFORMANCE CENTER Model 325 Thunder Ranch: a matte black .45-caliber Scandium-framed revolver, complete with a gold bead sight and undersnout picatinny rail (not shown for some reason). Which is why a .357 rapidly loses velocity and muzzle energy when the barrel length drops below 4. Read today's "The Armed Citizen" entry for real stories of law-abiding citizens, past and present, who used their firearms to save lives. Im not trying to put the AR down, but
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