people in my circles seem legitimately surprised that ELF still exist, right before they turn judgmental. a list of problematic groups/soloists or problematic things they have done. Leeteuk has also expressed his disapproval of girls who are fat not once, but twice. Your browser has JavaScript disabled. you pay twice the serving price). Why is super junior problematic? : r/kpophelp - Reddit Theres some things some Super Junior members have done that can be considered problematic but this aint one. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. they think its a creepy thing to say that a man has feminine looks. "Of course, I can see why he is popular. Shindong canceled Super Junior singer sexist SHINee Taemin - MEAWW I dont know. because in the end of the day people are taking their hate for his "ideals" or perceived ideals out on his physical appearance, something that lots of other people share. jan. 3 2017 namjoon went on vlive making a kind of new years resolution: Ive never thought my behaviors and my musical words could hurt others or cause inconvenience to others. Edit them in the Widget section of the. but yeah, shindong is hardly a pedophile. Lets meet surely after the. I just can't understand the logic behind it at all !! I thought so. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. at least among english-speaking ifans on the platforms i enjoy, ELFs aren't entirely present. We would like to show you a description here but the site won't allow us. Kim Heechul Under Fire For Making An "Inappropriate" Joke Towards i can meet things as they are presented and bring identity politics in later if mentioned. This review is the subjective opinion of a Tripadvisor member and not of Tripadvisor LLC. Shindong said the truth. The staff were reasonably friendly, the food however was a disgrace. The fact that Super Junior isnt getting the respect they deserve as legends makes me so angry. and this goes for any fandom really -- people should stop trying to force out older people from fandoms simply because they are older, especially when 99% of the time, the source material is being produced by people who are considered old, and fandom traditions and archives were pioneered by "old people". none of twice are minors or prepubescent. not only can this be damaging to someone's reputation, it's really harmful to CSA victims to weaken the term "pedophilia" & "pedophile". People act like theyre unforgivable. For more K-Pop news and updates, keep your tabs open here at KpopStarz. is heechul the only super junior member with no controversy? Retweets. Seulgi said she met Kyuhyun once as a trainee and introduced herself to him, then she met him again a year later and he still remembered her name and she was so touched. The first reason that made viewers raise their brows was due to his misogynist remark about people behind the "women generation." *i can say this because i have been in this situation.kind of. !, P1harmony|SHINee|ITZY|ONF|Monsta X|Purple Kiss|KARD|ONEWE|Pentagon|Billlie|NCT Dream|Ghost9|GOT7, theres a lot of problematic stuff suju members have done or said , theres no need to pull out this one when it can easily be explained away by the casting director making that decision. they refused to acknowledge that yoongi was seen mixing the speech himself and that he was one of the producers on the song, august 2020: for the dynamite live countdown, there was a tipi scene in the background, on a variety show namjoon joked about having second hand enjoyment to a book that depicted black woman as savages that also included a rape section (still being argued over with things like mistranslation or fake subs) but multiple people that have read or own the book have argued that there isnt a rape section or that there is because there was non consensual moments in the book, Most of their scandals can be found when searching super junior scandals or controversies, misogynist - a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women, fatphobic - the fear and/ or hatred of fat bodies, blackface - wearing makeup to imitate the appearance of a black person, culture appropriation - the unacknowledged or inappropriate adoption of the customs, practices, ideads, etc. again, for the record, i don't hate super junior. Super Junior is the only group acknowledged by World Health Organization. LMAO you again and your ex-suju fan agenda. Lets meet surely after the resurrection. he commissioned his favorite artist to make the album art, march 3 2020 while reacting to an old video namjoon called his debut hair dope and laughed, may 2020 yoongi released his mixtape which one of the tracks he sampled cult leader jim jones who was responsible for killing hundreds of black people. my boy yeosang in ravenclaw is everything , during the icy m/v and dance practice yeji had braids (? My son booked a table for my birthday and we had an excellent meal and the restaurant made a special effort with my dessert. From Teens to Stars: Where is EXO Sehun's Close Friend Da Eun Now After Drifting Apart Cause of Jealous Fans? Junior Campaign Manager. Making reservations isn't absolutely necessary as I noticed some groups or 2-4 people walk in. Jane Krakowski. The other member I accidentally liked was Siwon who has publically struggled with his stance on gay marriage. MY victory, one SYNK DIVE. god forbid you are an adult arguing against a minor on this.*. it's clear to me that people use morality as a cover-up rather than an actual reason, considering who they stan. There's nothing in this to be mad about, twitter stans regardless of which fandoms creates issues out of non issues and this is one of them, though I'm not seeing any fellow Shawols of mine hating on him on tlist so it's probably just some edgy kpop stans hating on him. Everyoneis going to get old eventually. happens the same with big bang for me. I never seen another group get this hostile treatment aside of suju, really. #8. Members Seungyoon and Jinwoo were invited to dance to the popular TikTok dance, ZeroTwo, during a game corner. allkpop is a registered trademark of 6Theory Media, LLC. your fave is problematic They had dishes with a range of spiciness for all palates. entertainment, news presenter | 4.8K views, 28 likes, 13 loves, 80 comments, 2 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from GBN Grenada Broadcasting Network: GBN News 28th April 2023 Anchor: Kenroy Baptiste. let us gather around for the lords prayer: Nvis we love you. But along the way, he defended the latter's violent personality by stating that Kangin is the type who just couldn't stay away from fights, just for example, when he saw a guy harassing a woman. and there is some good members (heechul the biggest example) but they just have so many members who have done questionable things idk. What went WRONG with Super Junior members? - YouTube You are the one who protected me when i was in trouble. also, with this comeback i've seen a lot of people apologizing to their mutuals for wanting to like them like? How does Super Junior still have careers? - Problematic Kpop Faves i mean they have done black face a few times, different members, and defended it even, that's the main issue i have with them, apart from siwon being openly homophobic. however, when super junior comes back, it's often seen as an affront to every other artist that SM didn't let comeback. Quote Tweets. however, a lot of kpop fans seem to think that super junior never got their come-uppens for their problematic behavior. This time, the idol wasn't only embroiled in one controversy, but a couple of sensitive issues. Not sure if it makes it acceptable to hate them, I just wanted to add it. Why are you blaming super junior for a model that was hired by sm? Simple: Anyway my time ignoring Super Junior was short lived when they released Mamacita (problematic yes I know) in 2014 and I realized I had accidentally liked two members of the group through other bodies of works theyve done. Forums - OneHallyu Twitter influence or not, thats still the bottom line of ops conclusion from this mess, which yeah ill still call out even if op is young. If someone is comfortable with the way they are and theyre actually happy with their body, then they should just be left alone. Why it's Perfectly Acceptable to Hate Super Junior: A Thread. Why Is Super Junior Problematic at Korea as an adult, i understand that some actions are more excusable than certain actions. :). thats my goals., june 12 2017 namjoon posted photos of his debut hair, june 27 2017 during bon voyage jin in his letter to jungkook said that his face had gotten a lot darker during the trip so once they got back to korea he would give him a sheet mask to fix his skin, sept 21 during a knowing bros episode namjoon said he would have looked good with locs and so would one fo the men on the show, sept 22 2017 during the mic drop comeback dna performance jhope had braids. did not see a single shawol complaining about that statement, Most shawols were focusing on the fact that Taemin showed up at Sshindong's house to check on his editing lol, People are making things up at this point. I got a spicy beef dish, the beef was super tender and the spice and flavor combination was perfect. The girl was there with . men are people too. however, even as someone who doesn't like super junior, i know this is false. What annoys me the most is those hating on Shindong for fatshaming, yet doing the same to him. Amsterdam. Change). Currently, the group has 9 active members named Leeteuk, Kim Heechul, Yesung, Shindong, Eunhyuk, Choi Siwon, Lee Donghae, Kim Ryeowook, and Chon Kyuhyun. Your browser has JavaScript disabled. ", "Hes such a manly man (Alpha male) who really likes to exercise.". * i have beef with the word problematic. The idol also claimed that there's nothing wrong with the Bogyum's controversial signature phrase, "boiru" [bogyum + hairu (slang of 'hi')[ which is believed by many that it actually means "c*nt + hairu. that pissed me off so much, gg stans use the words pedophile and harassment so loosely it's disgusting. I truly didnt know that this was such a big problem within Kpop groups. Variety show Alcohol Street Fighter took down and re-uploaded an edited version of their video from YouTube after their MC, Super Junior's Heechul, fell under fire for a joke he had made on air.The issue started with an episode guest-starring boy group WINNER. It honestly disgusts me so much when I hear people fat shaming, especially when the person who is doing the shaming is fat. super junior's problematic past (a powerpoint) (slightly outdated!!) Amsterdam, North Holland, Netherlands. super junior is but one example of this, but there are many more. this is also not a comment on them as individuals or as a group, but a personal observation on the kpop fandom. He had guts, but he was a very good friend of mine. Totally different topic: Musical - adaptations of dramas! Op, you seem pretty young, but it's not the first time that you twist a situation and try to make an inexistent point. Gino Pelzer - Senior Campaign Manager - VICE Media | LinkedIn Two other members of Super Junior have been found fat-shaming. tl;dr a lot of theblas reaction to the hate towards super junior seems morality driven, because the "deserve it". however, i did want to point out, that in fandoms (kpop and beyond), perception often takes place of reality. And I dont really have an idea to what extent suju is in terms of being caught into controversies and lot of problems. Dont have an account yet? At the time I was girl group trash (basically Colloquial for you stan girl groups) So when Mister Simple dominated charts I purposely ignored it because girl groups dont get enough attention! Saying that he does not like fat girls because he likes girls that "take care of their bodies". because the kpop fandom often interacts as several factions of a hive mind, if there are certain perceptions that permeate these hives, a lot of people will take them as truth regardless. that's the only reason to continuously bring up "bad behavior" even if it occurred seven years ago. At the Noodle Cart: Korean edition [May 2020]. I know your sacrifices. We all loved the food and think the flavor profile is similar to Thai food. Zoom in to see updated info. and this is mostly because people don't think that super junior has enough popularity and worth to be continuously sustained as a group. bighit ended up releasing a statement saying they apologized for anyone who was offended and said they didnt purposely use the sample and that it happened because of the producer. 2007 - 2023 6Theory Media, LLC. he is really known problematic idol at his age. The only thing that makes sense is number 4. 60-61, 116, 278, 464, 489-490) | [Special MC] (Ep. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Maybe our expectations of Indonesian food were too high but I for one would not return or recommend. If you would like to use all features of this site, it is mandatory to enable JavaScript. He should stop talk .being humble and . Edited once, last by fortuna: User has been warned (May 29th 2021). add this to the unfortunate comments and actions certain members have said, or are thought to have said, and super junior go from being old men to being lecherous old men. as long as they're behaving, let them stay (and this applies to everyone, regardless of age). That's 15 years of misspeaking, missteps, wrong actions, ect that people have chosen to not move on from. Since he showed up, the male idol immediately attracted the attention of viewers after people noticed that he was under the influence of alcohol. Personally, I think a lot of the hate is simply because they aren't young and trendy anymore and the fact that they are one of the older groups still left, It's OK though because it doesn't change the fact that they were part of the Hallyu wave and that's kinda legendary whether people want to admit it or not. that they never had to apologize, that they got away with it. because of the way super junior is framed in people's minds, people see things that aren't there when it comes to them. I guess it goes to show you your faves are problematic. Taemin since going solo is aiming for the androgynous look and perspective tbh. im just leaving a reply here to let fans know to do proper research, since a good amount of OPs claims have been disproven by the affected parties. The fact that some fans have an issue with Taemin looking feminine tells more about them than the person who pointed it out in a non-insulting way Dont have an account yet? You are the one who protected me when i was in trouble. izoniee Worldwide Phenom Reactions 2,050 Posts 4,028 entries 1 May 29th 2021 #9. I agree that Shindong's comments about fat people should be dropped, it's been over 8 years now. Really good read. i would say it comes down to #4, but a lot of groups have #4s and they don't receive the same amount of "it's okay to hate them"-treatment that super junior does. From all the actual problematic things they once said they picked a non-issue to get mad ? Amsterdam, North Holland, Netherlands. The ironic thing is that looking androgynous is actually exactly what taemin wanted to be nnnnnn thats literally his avant garde approach to his image ever since becoming a solo artist: breaking gender norms and the toxic expectation that men are masculine by default and those who also have feminine features arent real men. Along with this, he also talked negatively about women in their 20s to 40s who feed, take care of, or spayed street cats, also known refer to as cat moms. Aneka Rasa: Very problematic attitude - See 727 traveler reviews, 228 candid photos, and great deals for Amsterdam, The Netherlands, at Tripadvisor. Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. Suwon is some homophobic trash and leetuk is some crazy weird when it comes to young female idols (yet the industry still lets him work with them?!?). I suggest you to start educating yourself the same way you demand idols to educate themselves. Register yourself now and be a part of our community! Netflix Unveils Line Up of Their Upcoming 2023 K-Content! Emilie Autumn. yet the hate towards super junior, seems almost flippant. In fact since op is so young they should learn more about worldly matters if they dont want to end up being a close-minded bigot down the line. this framing of super junior is personal to a lot of people in this fandom. Cheers. . Is your Oppa among them, too? interesting i so understand that certain members of SJ have gotten into issues before so therefore you don't like them correct? Aside from their fat shaming theres been instances of black face (Shindong) and homophobia. . A lot of those have come with apologies, some haven't, as is kpop tradition. So now we blaming idols for producers and casting choices. There's some things some Super Junior members have done that can be considered problematic but this ain't one. , Just when I think I know the extent of this woman's creepiness, I keep learning more wtf, P1Harmony 5th Mini Album 'HARMONY : SET IN' OUT NOW!! The things and reason,the members have not true relationship Edited once, last by vivaliberta (Jul 27th 2022). you support pedophiles, huh?" This is just my take so don't take it too seriously. they've either apologized or received pushback, either internationally or from korean fans. every group has done something or said something problematic. Thats a far-fetched situation but im just speaking of the worst scenario here. as a minor accusing an adult. Super Junior is the only group acknowledged by World Health Organization, Why Shinee is successful charting on Melon but Super Junior had so much difficulty, Super Junior EVER.LASTING.FRIEND tag list. Yoona said when she was trainee (13 yo teenager)leetuk call her pretty and wish married with her in futur Help wonyoung's mcing AAA 2022 is safe Makes sense that Siwon was in my nightmare earlier today, I did hear of that, people complain a lot, I though it was just some fuck up x director and sm love for white people, If she pulls this with new jeans its on sight. no one has to like them, but it's clear that they are an Acceptable Target, usually for convoluted reasons. So obviously I was not a kpop stan back then when suju was at its peak and it was still 2nd gen, and obviously I was not there to actually witness their "past issues". Claim your listing for free to respond to reviews, update your profile and much more. Look, I'm not a SUJU or Shindong fan, but this is really not an issue. they've been my comfort band for half a decade now and will continue to do so, you never know, you might just enjoy their tunes And she is not 14 she was 16 or 17 at the time. Super Junior Returns with Catchy but Problematic "Mamacita" super junior's problematic past (a powerpoint) (slightly outdated!!) LIST OF ALL SUPER JUNIOR PROBLEMATIC THINGS - YouTube Shindong is kpop's ultimate representative hot daddy and that's a fact, Long story short, bi+ches are PRESSEDT out the ass about SUJU still being LEGENDS 10+ years in their career~, K-Pop fans being hypocritical when it doesn't concern their faves lmao, And because it's fine to fat/bodyshame male idols, Summed up perfectly. a list of problematic groups/soloists or problematic things they have done. So I don't get how you're twisting it like super junior are hitting on her. So I am really curious. They were gone by morning. Nevertheless, I get what he was trying to say, and it was a compliment. The boys and girls were antagonizing each other with pranks and sneaking into each other's dorms. Thats a far-fetched situation but im just speaking of the worst case scenario here \_()_/, Which is a pretty clear tell of what op thinks about someone being called androgynous ie. young women don't like lecherous old women. I never realized music had a time limit, i thought i got used to it by now, stanning them since 2009 and all but kpop fans never cease to surprise and piss the hell out of me, just a few days ago GG twitter stan were calling Shindong a pedophile because he covered twice TTbecause LOGIC, you dare call them out and suddenly you are a meninist. ive seen people calling out suju members for shit their own bias groups said/did, who theyre so quick to forgive but for suju, after literally a decade + members apologies, people still drag them. She was messy all her time during SM this is not a single event or them the only group something nasty happened. In a sea of EXO, Monsta X, IKON and NCTU, Super Junior just does not compete anymore. i use it for it's simplicity, but it doesn't have any nuance. it's actually scary how, recently, maneuvering the the topic of pedophilia has become almost manipulative. there's a lot of other things, but since they were a long time ago they could get a pass. actually curious, which problematic thing did they repeatedly do over and over? this came up in a google search. He will be like, bro bring that fucking asshole and hell slap their faces. Be quiet and do your job and things go well. He wasnt meaning anything derogatory about it, just making an observation. Honestly Im at a lost of words for this group. Super Junior 10th album ballad masterpiece! the hate directed towards super junior is not like the hate directed towards twice, exo, or bts: the hate those artists receive is as a foil to their popularity. "It has been 14 years since I started seeing your stages" and Super Review tags are currently only available for English language reviews. the only person being stupid here, is you, who's trying to make of something that everybody agree wasn't a bad comment, something big just so you can hate on them, find a new hobby honey boo and stop trying to make a scandal where there's nothing, at this point yall are just looking for something to be mad about.
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